All Comments on 'Grey Rock'

No expensive holiday destination for Michael. He's too good at getting to the root of people's problems quickly.

Very good.

Not just a narcissist, but a full on sociopath. Her ex was lucky to get away. There should be some way to force the removal of the it.

Shouldn't Michael be calling the ex and letting him know what's going on with Jack?

Do people like this really exist? I fear they may… 4.1*

Refreshing concept and good story

Nice; and original; 5*

Well done. Except for one minor blip: it's either "your husband" or "Jack's father". Definitely not "Jack's husband".

Hello Dalton, I didn't know that you knew my ex-wife, 5.

Wow that was intense, I loved it. Well written and appeared to very realistic. 5🌟

The therapist has clearly defined, affirmative ethical and legal obligations to report the emotional, physical or sexual abuse of a minor to Child Protective Services. He did not. He should have his license revoked and could well face a criminal charge for failing his affirmative duty to report. Jack will have at least 3 years after he attains the age of majority to sue the therapist for malpractice, with the right to seek both compensatory and punitive damages.

Wow AND something new. Winner.

Self reflection and empathy are emotions absent from a high level ‘Narcie’. Most healthy individuals will have no trouble recognizing a high level like Valerie. There are many levels of Narcissism with Covert or Vulnerable being the most difficult to recognize, but just as destructive. They all have very observable traits, if one knows what to look for. Unfortunately, most don’t have a clue until they are involved.

Very much interesting and realistic psychological analysis of the human behaviour, in particular about the insidious and toxic narcissism, that sadly is not so rare. This kind of "smart" hidden manipulation of other people behaviour, is so much blinded that some people got really badly hurt, and in the end something very brutal and dangerous can happen, when the abused people explode with their rage in an unexpected and violent way (sometimes against innocent people). This short and well written tale, is obviously open for an evolution and conclusion, in a possible second part. In the mean time, the due full rating fo this "educative" tale: 5 stars.

From the blinded selfishness grow the narcissism and all kind of evilness, where the lies are the normal way to build their own life destroying the other ones. These people are like parassites, like a cancer that live and grow destroying what they have all around. People should learn how to identify these human-parassites and to stay away from them, because leaving them alone without victims to eat, they die. Sadly, these kind of disgusting sub-human narcissistic people are able to hide their real evilness under a smiling and reassuring fake mask: they are smart and really dangerous. So, a great welcome to these kind of, very much useful, variants of the typical LW tales. 5 stars of course.

"Do people like this really exist? I fear they may…"

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Absolutely, and not just a few of them. This behaviour is well documented in Psychology and there are many interesting videos on Youtube about this problem. But their toxic behavior is strategically hidden, until it's too late to react and the damage is often unrepairable.

Is Michael a counselor-in-training -- an intern, of sorts? Was that the reason for having Helen appear in the story? Frankly, she seems to be a kinda freaky/eerie (Hyde/Jekyll?) presence, which makes no "therapeutic" sense to me!

The story has no "resolution" for its conflict, and I don't like that much (although I can visualize "counseling" validity for it). I'm sure the disgust I feel for "couples" like the one described here is also lowering my opinion, as well.

This was disturbingly realistic and well-written.

@Demosthenes384bc yes, even without the cheating and divorces necessary for this category, yes, such narcissists, manipulative persons, emotional vampires, etc. DO EXIST.

Wow, there's real food for thought here. My wife was abused as a child and whenever we're having a conversation she'd rather not be having she Grey Rocks me and she does it to others as well. It certainly gives me a new insight.

loved it. but a shrink wouldnt have talked to the mother like that at least not in my experience. and unfortunately i have a lot in that area lol. and his shock was also a bit iffy unless he hasnt been a shrink for very long. hate myself for starting a sentence with AND but f it its just a comment lol anyway ty for the read as said loved it

I relished the thought and the effort that went into that story. Great drama, clever characters, well-told story. Thank you for sharing.

thanks

Good tale.

Plot was well-thought of and story is overall well-written. Nice one @Dalton402.

5* So sad for Jack and Kevin. That bitch is a classic narcissitic sociopath. Jack needs to move in with Kev.

"you divorced Jack's husband" - Jack's father!

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She keeps asking, "Don't you want me to be happy?" but she never worries about anyone else's happiness.

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I'd say that Michael should contact Jack's father and offer to testify in a custody hearing, but Jack already had the chance to go with his father and turned it down.

Valerie's maiden name must be Trump.

Sorry had to bail out. I don’t mind over the top (I love Sadfletramp’s stuff) but when the author’s therapist is too unbelievable to take seriously. And, the story isn’t presented as a parody. No score

Great start. And... ? Will Valerie find another victim? Will Jack begin to manipulate his peers for his own gain? Will Dave ever be found again?

Michael seems to be a very astute therapist. Frank and honest too. It would be a total waste of time, effort, and her money to try to fix that stone cold bitch. I doubt seriously that she would send old Jack back either. Great story.

Great story! Jack probably needs to leave his mother and move in with his father. However, he may be too corrupted for it to do him any good.

5

Except for Michael behaving unprofessionally, this wasn't a bad tale. Four stars from me.

No winners in this story. Well, maybe the “new” husband who bolted.

I don't see the boy as corrupted. It's a fact of life that there is nothing more effective against a narcissist/manipulator than paying them with the same coin. Why would you do something less efficient that might end up giving them more ammo. You hurt the ones who hurt you, it's that simple. I guess the boy wasn't brainwashed to a forgive/forget and all that kumbaya mentality so that makes him corrupt somehow?

She is just like 75% of women out there right now. Cold, calculating cuntz

4 stars. Took 1 star off because I very much disagree with MC's assessment of the boy. He is NOTHING like his egg donor in all the important ways. First, his targets are only the people who deserve it and are guilty. He does not practice his tactics on the innocent. Second, his goal is JUSTICE, not self-gratification like the psycho skank.

I couldn't really get into the story. The only thing I got out of the story was learning that the way to drive an antagonist crazy was by ignoring them had the name of Grey Rocking or the Grey Rock Method. Of course, the years I was developing this self-preservation method where many decades before the internet is the main reason. Other than that, as a therapist, Michael needs to go back to school. 3-stars.

Run Kyle, RUN!

Excellent and funny, sad too

Excellent story,please do more stories with Michael in them.

5* New terminology for future stories:: NARCISSITIC SOCIOPATH.

Excellent story. You nailed it!

Awesome. More! More! Pretty please ?

Holy Crap. I consider myself an expert on here when it comes to authors who concentrate on BTB, RAAC and a mixture of the 2 stories, I am surprised i never came across this masterpiece of a story. I love the concept, i love the therapist Michael, I love the kid Jack, and I even love the excellently written character of the c**** mother /wife. simply great.

Please, use more contractions. Not using contractions for dialog makes it sound so fake.